Interesting Meeting

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 10/31/2014 at 12:50 • Filed to: planelopnik

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I went down to the airport again this morning to see what was going on, and while sitting at the observation spot, I saw a car pull up and a man get out to take a photo of the 787 parked on the tarmac. He was wearing a flight suit with patches I didn't recognize, so I walked over, said good morning, and we struck up a conversation. It turns out that he is Col. Ricardo Gambaroni, the Commanding Officer of the São Paolo State Police Aviation Support Unit. He was in Austin to do some training with the Texas State Police, and then he was heading to Dallas to work with Flight Safety International at DFW. We spoke about the !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! , where a Hawker Beechcraft B200 Super King Air crashed into the Flight Safety building at that airport on takeoff. He said that the three people killed on the ground were an instructor, a Russian student, and an interpreter. They were in a simulator at the time. Though he is good friends with many of the instructors there, nobody he knew was hurt. As we parted, he gave me his card (the other side is in Portuguese or Galician). Pretty neat.

A photo of Col. Gambaroni from !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > ttyymmnn 10/31/2014 at 12:55

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Cool story

did they ever figure out how that happened with the plane in Kansas?

ttyymmnn > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 10/31/2014 at 13:00

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It's very early in the investigation, but I have heard that one of the two engines quit on takeoff. Twin-engine planes can be very difficult to control on one engine, though all certified pilots train for the eventuality. The general characteristic for a twin-engine plane's losing one engine is for the plane to roll onto its back because one engine is pulling asymmetrically. At altitude, there is plenty of time to react. On takeoff, at high power, everything happens very quickly, with little time or altitude to react. Perhaps some Planelop will come along with a better explanation, but that's how I understand it.

There's actually a pretty good layman's description of the situation in this article form Air & Space Magazine.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > ttyymmnn 10/31/2014 at 13:02

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damn.

well thanks for the overview!

jariten1781 > ttyymmnn 10/31/2014 at 13:06

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Didn't know they hit the Flight Safety building...my brother was an aerodynamicist for them for about 10 years. I'll have to call him and see if he's got any gouge.

Chris Clarke > ttyymmnn 11/01/2014 at 09:50

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You pretty much summed it up nicely. Another interesting fact about that Flight Safety facility was that they housed some of the only training simulators in the world. Like they have the only approved Citation X simulator.